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super android 17
Topic Started: Nov 12 2013, 10:51 PM (1,456 Views)
Kaioken123
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Today I was watching some of the super #17 saga and I always seem to mention: Super #17 is overpowered.

I think that they make super #17 too powerful

anybody else agree?
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Professor Gohan
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Hey man, I moved this to the GT section since it's a GT topic. Please start posting GT and Movie related topics in the appropriate section - The GT/Movies section.

Thanks,
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SuperSaiyan1993
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Well considering that they took a fusion of 2 Android 17s and made it more powerful than Vegeta (GT) who Baby held as the strongest Saiyan besides Goku and that this fusion was also able to overpower a GT SSJ4..... Yeah, they most certainly overpowered him.

This is the most generous power chain I can construct and it still makes it absolutely ludicrous

Super Baby Arc >>SSJ Vegito >>> Buuhan > Buutenks > Super Buu >>> SSJ Gotenks Post >> SSJ3 Goku >> SSJ2 Vegeta/Goku > SPC >> FP Cell >> SSJ Goku >> SSJG3 Trunks > SSJG2 Vegeta >> Semi-Cell >>> Imperfect Cell Post >>> Android 17
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Yeah, I mean, it's not like fusion has given ridiculous power boosts before <_< Also note that Hell Fighter 17 was stronger than regular 17 as he was owning Trunks
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About how much of a boost overall did Super 17 get from all of his absorptions?

Please list about how much for each.
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They try to make a claim that No. 17 was some huge amazing project of Gero and that because No. 17 was a hooligan Gero had to drop his power down 200,000,000x from its usual level and in reality, No. 17's potential is somehow stronger Gohan's potential and by fusing and some crap, No. 17's true almighty savior and lord potential is released and some bull*** like that.
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lazerbem
Nov 13 2013, 12:40 AM
Yeah, I mean, it's not like fusion has given ridiculous power boosts before <_< Also note that Hell Fighter 17 was stronger than regular 17 as he was owning Trunks
Well yeah, but I don't think fusion is the issue here. The thing that's just irritating is the fact that #17 was magically at the GT Z fighters' level before fusion. If they had introduced a new kind of android that was already at that level pre-fusion, I'd be fine with that and not the crappy bs one that they give for #17's "true potential"
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Nov 13 2013, 12:50 AM
lazerbem
Nov 13 2013, 12:40 AM
Yeah, I mean, it's not like fusion has given ridiculous power boosts before <_< Also note that Hell Fighter 17 was stronger than regular 17 as he was owning Trunks
Well yeah, but I don't think fusion is the issue here. The thing that's just irritating is the fact that #17 was magically at the GT Z fighters' level before fusion. If they had introduced a new kind of android that was already at that level pre-fusion, I'd be fine with that and not the crappy bs one that they give for #17's "true potential"
Was it regular 17? If it was Hell Fighter 17, he's a completely new android who happens to look similar. If it was regular 17, maybe he trained?
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Surely received a boost 17 ​​Regular Artificial Trough 17 is why gigantically increase their power.
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lazerbem
Nov 13 2013, 01:04 AM
supersaiyan1993
Nov 13 2013, 12:50 AM
lazerbem
Nov 13 2013, 12:40 AM
Yeah, I mean, it's not like fusion has given ridiculous power boosts before <_< Also note that Hell Fighter 17 was stronger than regular 17 as he was owning Trunks
Well yeah, but I don't think fusion is the issue here. The thing that's just irritating is the fact that #17 was magically at the GT Z fighters' level before fusion. If they had introduced a new kind of android that was already at that level pre-fusion, I'd be fine with that and not the crappy bs one that they give for #17's "true potential"
Was it regular 17? If it was Hell Fighter 17, he's a completely new android who happens to look similar. If it was regular 17, maybe he trained?
Yeah, Regular 17.

Except nothing indicated that he trained and we don't even know if he does know how to effectively train.

The whole thing is just asking for too much suspended disbelief. That's why I just don't think about the plot for that part to actually enjoy it
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Nothing on his absorption?

That's a good part of his power as well. He's still over powered though.
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He's not that strong. Remember that he absorbed a lot energy
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Professor Gohan
Nov 13 2013, 01:47 AM
Nothing on his absorption?

That's a good part of his power as well. He's still over powered though.
Nah his absorption is great. The 19/20 Absorption Concept was great but shelved in DBZ. It was nice to see it in action
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Nov 13 2013, 02:25 AM
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Nov 13 2013, 01:47 AM
Nothing on his absorption?

That's a good part of his power as well. He's still over powered though.
Nah his absorption is great. The 19/20 Absorption Concept was great but shelved in DBZ. It was nice to see it in action
I liked Super 17's weakness as well, it seemed very fitting.
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supersaiyan1993
Nov 13 2013, 02:25 AM
Professor Gohan
Nov 13 2013, 01:47 AM
Nothing on his absorption?

That's a good part of his power as well. He's still over powered though.
Nah his absorption is great. The 19/20 Absorption Concept was great but shelved in DBZ. It was nice to see it in action
I have to agree, one of the things I liked about GT was that it picked up on some plot concepts Toriyama forgot about as time went on. As far as him being overpowered, I agree it doesn't make a ton of sense for him to achieve the level that he does, but it was necessary for the plot. GT was in a bad spot from the beginning after the insane levels everyone reached at the end of Z, I don't think there' s a way they could have done it without creating broken power chains, and definitely in the case of Hell Fighter 17.
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